Ignorance Unlimited

Posted by: MikeP in Uncategorised  on Print 

Sitting in a terrace bar in Barcelona at the weekend, I overheard the conversation amongst two English couples at an adjacent table, as they sorted through several piles of Euro bank notes.

It went something like this :

"These are the ones wot Fred brought back from France last year, so these must be the Spanish ones .... "

I wasn't quite sure what was coming but I had an uneasy feeling that I knew where the conversation was going, and the next words confirmed my worst fears :

"So you can't use the French ones in Spain?"

The waiter was called over and beers ordered. No attempt to speak Spanish was made, but the waiter spoke sufficient English to take the order and deal with the next question as a 20 Euro note was thrust into his face :

" 'ere mate, 'ow much is this worf in our money?"

With a mixture of typical Spanish grace and gentle Catalan sarcasm, he replied : "I do not know which is your country, so it is impossible that I answer the question."

They explained to him, as if he were the one short of brain cells, that they were from England, you know .... E- N- G- L- A- N-D and he promptly replied that 20 Euros was worth about £15, not bad for a quick calculation. He went off to get the order, and the conversation continued :

"They all look the same. 'ow do you know which country they come from? What a stupid system. I mean at least wiv the coins they have sort of like, you know, different patterns, but these notes, stupid innit? Bloody 'ell."

Cringing with shame at the ignorance of fellow Anglophones, I was glad to be able to speak Spanish and as the waiter came over I told him what was going on and we hatched an evil little scheme. When they offered him a 20 Euro note to pay their bill, he looked at it, turned it over, and handed it back to them and told them it was not valid in Spain. They offered him the next one which he glanced at and accepted.

I leaned across and told them that only the German and Swiss Euro notes were valid in all of Europe, with the Greek and Portuguese ones only valid in their own countries of issue. Then they asked me how you knew where they came from.

I told them that any that had more than one 7 in the serial number were Greek, those that had more than one 6 were Portuguese, and that only ones with a 0 were valid anywhere but I wasn't too sure about the rest.

As I left they were carefully sorting through the notes, putting some aside as invalid. I spent the rest of the weekend hoping I wouldn't bump into them again, but fairly smug in the knowledge that they were unlikely to have worked out that they'd been deceived. I also wonder if they tried to find Swiss Euro coins!

P.S. There is actually a country code on each note, it is the letter preceding the serial number, for example V is Spain, U is France, S is Italy, and oddly enough J is reserved for the UK in the event that the UK should join the Eurozone - hopefully never but that's another debate.


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written by Mike P , 30 August 2008
Travel broadens the mind. That may be the case for some of us, but I often wonder if others leave their brains at home when they travel.

My prize of the week goes to the ignorant loud-mouthed chavvy woman on this morning's FlyBe flight from Jersey to Nice, who as the plan was taxi-ing onto the stand, was sharing the benefit of her ignorance with the whole cabin on her mobile 'phone.

"Yeah we just landed didn't we, eeeh, it's so exciting to be 'ere ..... I was trying to text you the whole way down but there was no coverage." I didn't really listen to the rest of the inane drivel she was spouting."

So here's a woman who apparently sat on the 'plane, with her 'phone on, trying to send a text during the flight. Even if it's her first time on an aircraft, and she was acting as if this were the case, there's just no excuse. Not one I can think of anyway.
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written by Walgren , 02 September 2008
You can never overestimate the stupidity of the average human. But it should be said that not everyone has a grasp of technical subjects. I know a man (no fool in less technical areas) who is convinced that no one can leave him a message when his mobile phone is turned off. After all, where would it go?

Except in a few rare cases where a written record might be useful for consulting, I've never understood this texting phenomenon. What's it for? Just a more complicated and time-inefficient way to send a message?
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written by Mike P , 02 September 2008
I agree Walgren but we're not talking about technical issues here. We're talking common sense.

Now on technical issues, I have two friends who are airline captains. One is a training captain on Boeing 777's, the other flies Airbus 340's all over the world. Neither of them can operate a dishwasher or a washing machine. Personally I find that very funny, but their wives don't!


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written by Walgren , 02 September 2008
Learning is a question of motivation in my opinion. Washing machines are neither fun nor essential (as long as there's someone else available to sort it) but flying is both a passion and a fabulous profession.
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written by Doug , 07 September 2008
Slightly off-topic, but I'd like to respond to Walgren's question about texting:

"Except in a few rare cases where a written record might be useful for consulting, I've never understood this texting phenomenon. What's it for? Just a more complicated and time-inefficient way to send a message?"

It's often a less efficient way of communicating information for the sender, but not always. Anyone who's dictated a phone number knows it can be stressful and frustrating for both parties when background noise and pencil fumbling is involved. It can be simpler and certainly more accurate to use the 'text this number' function from the phone's address book. Some people may find that point debatable, but we should probably save the mobile phone usability can of worms for another discussion thread.

I find that the main advantage of texting is not for the sender but for the recipient. Texting is a great way to be polite to the recipient if you don't need an immediate answer and you don't want to interrupt them. One could argue for using voicemail, but for the recipient, reading a text is quicker than navigating those horrid vocal menu systems - particularly if they're not in your first language. In addition, many people who bark their messages into another person's voicemail don't always consider the poor listener. Diction, background noise and that extra glass of rose can all conspire to make the final result unintelligible.

Many won't agree with this view but some people are visually oriented and other aural. I'm visual and also grouch who dislikes interruptions, so texting wins for me!
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written by Walgren , 07 September 2008
I'd never thought of it that way Doug. The only time I ever tried to send a texto I got horribly muddled. Small keys and big fingers just don't go together!

But not interupting someone by calling them when all you want to do is leave a message has a lot going for it. There's nothing more distracting than hearing your mobile go off when you're driving even if you don't answer it (and if you're driving you shouldn't!).
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written by Walgren , 07 September 2008
BTW, what happens when you get a texto? Does the phone tell you there's one waiting to be read or do you have to remember to check regularly? I never get texts. Maybe I'm too old for that young techie stuff!
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written by Doug , 07 September 2008
All phones will blurt out some kind of bleep to tell you that a new message has arrived. Often the tone emitted will be different for a text than an incoming voice call. That means you can decide if you want to pick it up or read the message later. I switch mine to silent when a distraction's not welcome.

I wholeheartedly support your comments about phone use and driving. I've seen far too many people doing that down here. It's sooooo dangerous.

That neatly takes us back to the original theme of this thread: ignorance!
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written by Walgren , 07 September 2008
We're all ignorant. Just about different things! Some people are ignorant about running a business and other people are ignorant about understanding the principle of the euro.

Don't you think?
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written by Mike P , 07 September 2008
hmmm, as a total Luddite with technology even I can see the benefit sometimes of text messages and Doug has summed it up very concisely. I do hate it though when people send long text messages and expect the same in reply, I don't see why they can't use the 'phone or email. I also h8 z stpd txt lngge, CUL8r b gud etc. I refuse to answer those!
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written by Walgren , 14 September 2008
It appears that the driver of yesterday's accidented California train was texting at the time and didn't see a red light.
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written by MikeP , 05 November 2008
"Quelle dommage qu'elle parle et chante en Anglais et que je ne comprends pas un mot"

This was the man whom I was unfortunate enough to be sat next to at the Katie Melua concert in Nice a couple of weeks ago. He moaned the whole way through, talking while she was singing and introducing her songs.

Not just pig ignorant, but stupid and inconsiderate as well. "If I can't enjoy it I will make sure nobody else does either."
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written by Treats , 05 November 2008
I didn't quite understand MikeP. Was this person saying this on their mobile phone during the concert? If so, it is indeed uncouth.
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written by MikeP , 05 November 2008
No, not on his 'phone, but loudly to his companion, who seemed embarrassed, and anyone else who was near enough to hear. I suspect that he realised that my companion and I were English speakers and that he was trying to provoke a reaction. Apart from a couple of pitying looks I ignored him.
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written by Treats , 05 November 2008
I would have stuffed my programme into his yob. Surely he knew he was coming to hear someone sing in English!
I saw Brel in London once. No one expected him not to sing in French.
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